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ZAN · 11-20-2011, 02:50 PM

I'm tired of MF'ers who can't get stops early in the game relying on bull**** like this in the 4th quarter to close 2 possession leads when there is NO SURPRISE ELEMENT to it. I'm all for it being allowed in the 2nd and 3rd quarters...but **** this **** in the 4th quarter.

For the record, no I did not lose to this. But when I'm up 32-11 with just over two minutes to go, you score with under 2 to go, and come out in the regular kick off formation, it's NOT a ****ing surprise when you try that sneak. Then it ends up being 32-25 before you even blink. It's truly horse****

The AI just acts dumb and doesn't go to recover; or they turn and dive about 3 yards short of where the ball actually is. The success rate of these kicks is about 65-70% even with the opponent picking KR Middle 2. Usering it might be less effective than letting the AI do it (because turning around your MLB is retarded), and we know how dumb the AI react to it.

It's busch league...and I know I'm not the only one that this **** has either ****ed over or come close to ****ing over.

JG710 · 11-20-2011, 03:28 PM

I see where your coming from but I couldn't disagree more. I haven't had a surprise onside kick recovered against me in about a month. It something that is very easy to defend against. There are so many things in this game that are over effective, do we ban those as well? Just my 2 cents.

**Was It Teh Chad** · 11-20-2011, 03:29 PM

Why not also address the holding A during Kicks bull****..

ZAN · 11-20-2011, 03:32 PM

I'm not saying ban surprise onsides. I'm saying ban them in the 4th quarter. They don't fool anyone. The fact that guys would rather SURPRISE ONSIDE when they are down 1 with 30 seconds left and no timeouts, rather than line up in a regular onside formation AND that the onside recover formation doesn't cover surprise onsides either is straight up retarded...

Granted, I watch carefully to make sure you are in "Onside Kick" or "Kickoff" before I select my return...but the nearly 7 out of 10 success is dumb.

ZAN · 11-20-2011, 03:34 PM

Holding A during kicks? What am I missing?

JG710 · 11-20-2011, 03:35 PM

I think hes saying that because u can run extra time off of the clock

ZAN · 11-20-2011, 03:37 PM

Oh, yeah. That's NBD to me...

NeLLy NeL · 11-20-2011, 03:51 PM

Ive done it 3 times in the past 2 seasons and haven't recovered 1.

ZAN · 11-20-2011, 04:03 PM

That's gotta be an anomaly. You can easily go into p-mode and recover 6 out of 10...

JG710 · 11-20-2011, 04:18 PM

In league play this year i have had at least 10 surprise onside kicks against me. Only once was it recovered by the kicking team.

11-20-2011, 02:50 PM	#1
ZAN Forward Progress Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 1,296	Surprise Onsides Need Addressed I'm tired of MF'ers who can't get stops early in the game relying on bull** like this in the 4th quarter to close 2 possession leads when there is NO SURPRISE ELEMENT to it. I'm all for it being allowed in the 2nd and 3rd quarters...but this in the 4th quarter. For the record, no I did not lose to this. But when I'm up 32-11 with just over two minutes to go, you score with under 2 to go, and come out in the regular kick off formation, it's NOT a **ing surprise when you try that sneak. Then it ends up being 32-25 before you even blink. It's truly horse** The AI just acts dumb and doesn't go to recover; or they turn and dive about 3 yards short of where the ball actually is. The success rate of these kicks is about 65-70% even with the opponent picking KR Middle 2. Usering it might be less effective than letting the AI do it (because turning around your MLB is retarded), and we know how dumb the AI react to it. It's busch league...and I know I'm not the only one that this has either ed over or come close to **ing over. __________________ Forward Progress Madden YouTube Channel Follow me on Twitter: @PeytonZANning Subscribe to My YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/4wardprogressmadden 3x C4 Xbox Majors Super Bowl Champion (S5 Giants / S26 Eagles / S30 Buccaneers) 1x C4 Xbox NCAA National Champion (S1 Oregon Ducks) Back 2 Back C4 Xbox Majors Defensive POTY ('11 & '12)

11-20-2011, 03:32 PM	#4
ZAN Forward Progress Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 1,296	I'm not saying ban surprise onsides. I'm saying ban them in the 4th quarter. They don't fool anyone. The fact that guys would rather SURPRISE ONSIDE when they are down 1 with 30 seconds left and no timeouts, rather than line up in a regular onside formation AND that the onside recover formation doesn't cover surprise onsides either is straight up retarded... Granted, I watch carefully to make sure you are in "Onside Kick" or "Kickoff" before I select my return...but the nearly 7 out of 10 success is dumb. __________________ Forward Progress Madden YouTube Channel Follow me on Twitter: @PeytonZANning Subscribe to My YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/4wardprogressmadden 3x C4 Xbox Majors Super Bowl Champion (S5 Giants / S26 Eagles / S30 Buccaneers) 1x C4 Xbox NCAA National Champion (S1 Oregon Ducks) Back 2 Back C4 Xbox Majors Defensive POTY ('11 & '12) Last edited by ZAN; 11-20-2011 at 03:35 PM.

11-20-2011, 03:34 PM	#5
ZAN Forward Progress Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 1,296	Holding A during kicks? What am I missing? __________________ Forward Progress Madden YouTube Channel Follow me on Twitter: @PeytonZANning Subscribe to My YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/4wardprogressmadden 3x C4 Xbox Majors Super Bowl Champion (S5 Giants / S26 Eagles / S30 Buccaneers) 1x C4 Xbox NCAA National Champion (S1 Oregon Ducks) Back 2 Back C4 Xbox Majors Defensive POTY ('11 & '12)

11-20-2011, 03:37 PM	#7
ZAN Forward Progress Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 1,296	Oh, yeah. That's NBD to me... __________________ Forward Progress Madden YouTube Channel Follow me on Twitter: @PeytonZANning Subscribe to My YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/4wardprogressmadden 3x C4 Xbox Majors Super Bowl Champion (S5 Giants / S26 Eagles / S30 Buccaneers) 1x C4 Xbox NCAA National Champion (S1 Oregon Ducks) Back 2 Back C4 Xbox Majors Defensive POTY ('11 & '12)

11-20-2011, 04:03 PM	#9
ZAN Forward Progress Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Springfield, IL Posts: 1,296	That's gotta be an anomaly. You can easily go into p-mode and recover 6 out of 10... __________________ Forward Progress Madden YouTube Channel Follow me on Twitter: @PeytonZANning Subscribe to My YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/4wardprogressmadden 3x C4 Xbox Majors Super Bowl Champion (S5 Giants / S26 Eagles / S30 Buccaneers) 1x C4 Xbox NCAA National Champion (S1 Oregon Ducks) Back 2 Back C4 Xbox Majors Defensive POTY ('11 & '12)

11-20-2011, 03:28 PM	#2
JG710 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 183	I see where your coming from but I couldn't disagree more. I haven't had a surprise onside kick recovered against me in about a month. It something that is very easy to defend against. There are so many things in this game that are over effective, do we ban those as well? Just my 2 cents.

11-20-2011, 03:29 PM	#3
Was It Teh Chad C4 Broadcaster Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Easthampton, Massachusetts Posts: 1,858	Why not also address the holding A during Kicks bull****..

11-20-2011, 03:35 PM	#6
JG710 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 183	I think hes saying that because u can run extra time off of the clock

11-20-2011, 03:51 PM	#8
NeLLy NeL Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 222	Ive done it 3 times in the past 2 seasons and haven't recovered 1.

11-20-2011, 04:18 PM	#10
JG710 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ohio Posts: 183	In league play this year i have had at least 10 surprise onside kicks against me. Only once was it recovered by the kicking team.

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